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Glenflyfish
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Bull Trout on Pitt River BC Reply with quote

Anyone fished Bull trout on the Pitt River (or else where)? I am going in mid June and sea run Bull trout are supposed to be there. What flies and techniques are successful? I just added a Spey rod to my inventory (Twin forks 8/9) and need to learn how to use this, but I assume minnow patterns and Intruders should work on Spey or my old #9?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: yo Reply with quote

yo ... there is a long time member of flies and fins "bigbear" from alberta canada .. not exactly sure where he fishes but i do know he catches alot of nice fish .. steelies, salmon, bulltrout etc... .... i usually see his username online at least a couple times per week ... he might be able to provide you with some solid info .. if not about that exact river, at least about some general bull trout tactics/flies that work up in that neck of the woods .. good luck ... here is a bulltrout article from big bear .. nice fish for sure ..

http://www.fliesandfins.com/article468.html
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. The Pitt River Lodge promotion talks about 5 to 15 pound fish, but I would be optimistic to hope for one like his. I did catch one on the Old Man River in Alberta once, but only as he grabbed my small cut throat (10") like a sandwich. Quite a tug of war, but of course he eventually let go. And the little cut throat survived too!

One other question -- when I ordered Intruder (black with long fur tail) flies from Cabelas they came without hooks. I presume so I could attach the right size? #2 or so? I wonder what the best way to tie them on is? Seems to be set up for aline to the head, but through a small plastic feeder at the end of the leather/fur tail?? Anyone had experience with these flies?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved to MA from Seattle a year ago. My home waters were the Skagit, and the Sauk both are known for their Bull Trout. These fish tend to be really aggressive. They love to feed on whitefish, so my favorite flies to swing are big bunny leeches, I mean big like 4-6" in white or purple. I tie them with a little flash and some big eyes. If the salmon are spawning I will often drift egg patterns behind them and hold on! Here is a link to the gallery for a Dolly/Bull trout fly swap I was in a little while back it should give you some ideas of what guys use.

http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=18317

About your intruder...it is a tube fly, snell a size 2-4 octopus hook on, slide your fly on the tippet, and connect to your leader.

I have wanted to go the Pitt for many years, I'm sure you'll have a great time. Best of luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips. I printed out you designs. I have some black leaches, but I will try to tie your white fly if it is ok to copy it. I will let you know how the trip ends up.

A admission of ignorance -- how do you tie a snell knot for this kind of fly?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goolge it...there are some great animated resources that can explain it more clearly than I can describe it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I found it and I just did not know it by that name. I just called a salmon knot. So thanks again for the help.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Bull Trout vs Dolly Varden Reply with quote

Here in western Canada we have both the coastal strains which are dollies and the inland cousins bullies are mainly on the eastern slopes. I think they can co-habit but it is more the exception than the norm.

If you want the largest of bulls the Interior of British Columbia have the largest in the province, in the Columbia Drainage and the Flathead. The largest trout taken in BC is 29 pounds out of Kootaney Lake north of Creston.

There are a great many rivers around Fernie the harbour some hawgs.

The Bull Trout is Alberta's official fish and these aggressive char have recovered from over fishing in the early 90s. There are several rivers that will hold fish in the 20s (pounds that is). I plan on catching some of those brutes on mouse patterns this summer to be truthfully I think these fish can take down a small beaver.
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