Fly Fishing

chromefinder · Location: Southeast PA

What is your opinion on the Moffitt Angling System or the use pegging beads?

see
http://www.moffittangling.com/control/system

jeremy · Location: Portland, Maine

No thanks.

KodiakCommando · Location: Kodiak, Alaska

I don't know about the former but i've been pegging beads for years for two reasons

It's the most effective way to catch trout feeding on salmon eggs

It eliminated gut hooking which can happen with glo bugs when fishing for rainbows up here.

lunchbox · Location: Utah

Ive fished pegged beads for years and they are absolutely deadly, not just in Alaska. They hold well, never hook deep, and I have always done better with trout beads than Glo bug style flies. I've tried fishing them head to head and beads always pick up more fish.

The Moffit system seems like a good idea but I see several problems with it.

-Small dries will not support that heavy hook. no way in hell will a #24 Trico hold up a #12 circle hook

-Casting- the great thing about throwing a single dry is that there is nothing to impede turnover therefore you can throw nice, tight, effiecient, accurate loops. With a fly up the leader and a hook hanging off the end, it will be more like throwing a dry/dropper. You would have to open up your loop some.

-Because the leader is looped through the eye of the hook, your streamers won't run straight when you strip them. They will always be at a slight offset angle.

-so much for trying flies

-it seems to me that the flies would fall apart right away. Traditional flies (and tubes) are tied on a hook or tube with a backbone. Without stiff support underneath, the fly would just fall apart whenever it gets bent.

-no more beadheads

-Drift. With the fly in the middle of the line, the currents are doing to affect the drift of the fly (dry) much more than if it were at the end of the
line. Just like fishing two dries at a time, the second fly at the end gets more eats than the upper fly 95 percent of the time.

These are just a few problems that jumped out right away. With some time I could probably find a dozen more. I'll just do it the easy way and pinch down barbs. Never had a hard time taking a fly out of a fishes mouth with a pinched barb

waterwhippa · Location: Upstate, NY

how do you think the Moffit system would work on bonefish? C'mon...give me a break,

AvidDavid · Location: Long Island, NY

I thought I would throw this into the mix as a hookless fly, although I know it's not the same deal!

http://www.fliesandfins.com/article843.html

I will admit that I have caught a few brook trout that attacked my strike indicator but were then hooked by my nymph (~4-5 feet [not inches] away) after my less than subtle hook-set! So I suspect that the system has some merit. I remember catching a small brown trout after it hit my fluorescent indicator only to find that it was hooked near the anal fin. Hence I can understand the idea of avoiding foul hooking fish. However, had I not caught that trout, I would have had a troutless weekend.

I have to admit, that a barbless hook will come out pretty easily and the Moffit hook-releasing large metal deely-bopper or a similar contraption may work well to release fish with minimal handling after they are caught with barbless hooks, even if hooked inside the mouth.

Overall, I am on the fence! Confused

But I think its an interesting idea with good intentions. Preserving fish to breed and be caught again is a worthy endeavor!

Pzulick · Posted: Mon 03/02/09 12:35 pm Post subject:

AvidDavid · Location: Long Island, NY

I don't see it quite that way but I can't argue with your sentiment. I still count it as another small fish added to my collection of many small fishes. I remain torn between the logic of wanting to harm the fish less and my emotion of wanting to catch (hook) more of them. Let's face it, if we really want to avoid harming the fish, we won't try to catch them! And yes, I realize that catching a fish (even if it had been hooked in the lip), after my "wary" quarry hit a fluorescent chartreuse and pink styofoam indicator, might not be considered the ultimate in sporting/purist/finesse trout fishing.

trutta_man · Posted: Sat 04/11/09 6:43 am Post subject: Moffitt Angling System

You must give this a shot before so quickly dismissing it. I got a much better nymph drift with this setup, and hooked (nicely, not foul) a beautiful NH steelie (out of lake winni).
The fish was not harmed, and the hook release was immediate and simple.
I will say that it will be interesting to see if the dry fly set up will work.

kappa505 · Posted: Sun 10/25/09 5:31 pm Post subject:

All it will take for people to give this a chance is to have some one using this system out fishing them on the same stretch of water. That being said, the mortality rate for post release fish is only relatively high when they are gut hooked. I haven't gut hooked many fish since I started fly fishing, none that I can remember. I have gut hooked plenty though using trebble hooks on regular fishing setups. I may give that system a try IF I see evidence that it will produce more fish, not because it decreases post release mortality.