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jkp929
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 Posted: Fri 04/10/09 4:54 pm Post subject: Trout Fly Fishing: Help Please! |
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| I live in WI and have been trout fishing for 4 years on small spring creeks with spinners and have had good success. This year I decided to pick up fly fishing and have been out 5-6 times this year with absolutly no success. I know where to find trout how to cast to them, and a decent idea of which flies to use. What am I doing wrong. Any suggestions will help. |
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jeremy
Location: Portland, Maine
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| Posted: Fri 04/10/09 6:26 pm Post subject: Trout |
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| Try this. If you know where the trout are and you know how to catch them with spinning gear, this should work. It definately did for me when I was just startin' out - and to be honest, I have not progressed much since then because this is so effective:D - Go get yourself a beadhead or conehead olive wooly bugger. If the river you are fishing is not deep than just fish floating line .. put on some leader/tippet 7-9 feet perhaps. Doesn't really matter if its tappered leader etc.. you can just use straight 4 or 5 pound test. Now, simply think of that wooly bugger like a spinning lure and fish it as you would a spinning lure (more or less). That wooly bugger really is meant to represent anything a fleeing bug or baitfish or who know what, and it really doesn't matter because i have yet to find a trout that doesn't like a wooly bugger. So cast it out there and strip it fast, than slow, then pause, then let it sink a little, then short strips, then long strips and if you are not catching anything .. do what you would do with spinning gear .. move to find the fish ... let me know how this works out for you. Fly fishing is not all that complicated and this method, when i first started, did the trick for me -- because fishing a streamer (wooly bugger) using this method is very close to spin fishing (for the most part) - at least the concept is the same. Good luck. |
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NeverNervousDave
Location: Kenosha, WI
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| Posted: Sat 04/11/09 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I would agree with Jeremy. For me the magic happened when I got into my first bluegill. I know, I know. LOL! After that fish though I realized what I was looking for and my catching went up exponentially. Now I drift a nymph almost exclusively and it is a blast. Getting that first one is like a spiritual experience. Here is this living thing on the end of gossamer thread and your rod is pulsating with life and you are there--beyond words. Once you commit to going flyfishing exclusively you'll never go back to the lowly spin cast rig 
Good luck getting past that 1st one. It'll happen grasshopper. |
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jjmcmullen
Location: Carbondale, CO
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| Posted: Wed 04/15/09 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Trout Fly Fishing: Help Please! |
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| jkp929 wrote: | | I live in WI and have been trout fishing for 4 years on small spring creeks with spinners and have had good success. This year I decided to pick up fly fishing and have been out 5-6 times this year with absolutly no success. I know where to find trout how to cast to them, and a decent idea of which flies to use. What am I doing wrong. Any suggestions will help. |
My advise ... on small creeks, don't pay out a lot of line. Flip your line out only far enough to control the fly. Learn to nymph fish! Get an indicator, start with one fly, add a smaller dropper fly to the hook of the first if you're not getting any strikes. Adjust the indicator so your flies drift in the water naturally ... make adjustments to the depth until you hit the level of the fish.
Most people learning to fly fish spend way to much time getting caught up in "casting". Learning to control your line and make long casts will come, but first ... get control of your line and don't play out a lot. Practice "casting" off the water ... in your yard until you get control of the line. Doing this out on the river will only frustrate you and it's usually just not a good place to learn to cast.
Lay out some line, flip it up and across stream, let it drift all the way down stream. Flip the line up and over back to your starting point/target. Don't get caught up in the "river runs through it" thing. Fly fishing is all about line control and drift [dead drift so the flies look natural in the water]. Take it slow ... have fun. |
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troutaddict1
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| Posted: Wed 04/15/09 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| My advice from my own experience has been simply finding fish and putting imitations in front of their face over and over again. If you continue to not have success. Try the above suggestions from the other guys and also try going down in tippet size and fly size. It's just a matter of trying to key in on what the fish are feeding on. Especially for spring creeks, those fish can be a little picky sometimes. Just stay at it and try to simplify your game as much as possible. |
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kory_k
Location: New York, NY
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| Posted: Thu 04/16/09 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Trout Fly Fishing: Help Please! |
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| jkp929 wrote: | | I know where to find trout how to cast to them, and a decent idea of which flies to use. What am I doing wrong. Any suggestions will help. |
That is a good start, but a few questions i have are how are you rigging up? What size of leader/tippet are you using? How long is your leader? What flies are you fishing with?
If you are fishing spring creeks,the water is probably very clear so leader length and size are very important. Also, if you are fishing dry flies or nymphs, you need a drag free drift which when you are converting from spinning to fly fishing can be a difficult thing to understand. With spin fishing, you have constant tension on the fly whereas with fly fishing you don't want any tension as the fly should float drag free with the current until you are ready to set the hook. As Jeremy said, a woolly bugger or other streamer can be easier as it is similar to spin fishing and in this case you do have constant tension. |
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mnflyangler1
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| Posted: Sun 04/19/09 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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I fish the west central rivers of WI and had always had success. I use when nymphing basic beadheads pheasant tails, prince nymphs, pt flashbacks. Learn about the trout in your rivers around you and really study the hatches and all insects in your river and really experiment.
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BigBrowns25
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| Posted: Sun 04/19/09 3:17 pm Post subject: Trout fishing |
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I live in wisconsin and avidly fish the rush, kinnikinic, and Willow rivers a lot. I know a lot about fly fishing here and have great success. To start, try to find a local fly shop. Find out the hatches, and learn about the steams and trout around you. Try starting with a 4 or 5 weight rod, With a 5X or 6X leader. This time of year nymphing is the most common. Try starting with these Nymphs-
1.Bead Head Prince
2.Bead Head Hares Ear
3.Scuds
4. Flashback
5. Copper John
-These should get you started, if you tell me which part of WI you live in i can help telyou what some summer hatches are. |
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