Joined: Jan 21, 2005 Posts: 123 Location: Kodiak, Alaska in winter, bristol bay alaska in summer
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: Spey rods in the salt
Anyone here cast a two hander or seen someone do it in the salt?
The rio speycasting video talks about it and i know some striper fisherman do it.
Just intersted cuz i think it would catch on. I fish for salmon in some big surf where long casts are critical just like stripers. I went to the beach today with my spey rod equiped with a shortened scandinavian shooting head and rio slick shooter running line and after a few minutes I was casting 100 feet with minimul effort And after a few hours It felt awesome to make a simple 40 foot roll cast immediately followed by a overhand cast and launch my line 140 feet over the breakers
Anyway if any of you guys do fishing in the salt where you need to make long casts quickly than I would give a two hander a try.
Joined: Dec 16, 2004 Posts: 172 Location: Syracuse, NY
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:33 pm Post subject:
KC....I think Temple Fork makes a line specifically for the application you are talking about. It's called the Outbound....it's a two-handed overhead line. I have heard good things about it.
Joined: May 15, 2003 Posts: 819 Location: Portland, Maine
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: have not
have not tried it ... i gotta be honest ... the one thing that draws me back from spey rods is there size ... the thought of walking around a beach on marthas vineyard or wherever with a 13/14/16 foot rod is not that appealing to me ... maybe it would be better in some respects ... but the thought of putting it in the car and walking around with it just seems like a nightmare ... one thing i like most about fly fishing with a single handed fly rod, is its stealth and simplicity and i can break my single handed rod down into 2 pieces while still strung up with the fly and have my fly box and tippet in my pocket and be "in the game" ... for me, thats what i like most about saltwater is there is no waders, none of the nonsense, straight fluoro leader and relatively simple patterns .... i don't know that spey in the salt is for me .... maybe i am wrong .. maybe i will give it a try this year ... it's just that for me, bigger ain't always better, many times it's much worse ............
I find fishing Two Hand rod less stressful to my body although back and abs get some exercice. I don't fish regularly so when I have a chance it shows especially using strong SH rod and consecutive days my shoulder is sore. With TH I am able to cast left handed too which equalises wear too and use underhand casts as well for variety. I will spend Feb 2...7 on Marco Island and if I go fishing to Tigertail Beach most likely use 15ft travel rod. If you see bald tall guy with white stripping basket come say hello. I let you to pick one fly from my box
If I go to canals I most likely use SH gear. Do you use waders this time of year? Or is it unsafe to wade because of alligators?
Joined: May 15, 2003 Posts: 819 Location: Portland, Maine
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: good points
hey some good points on the TH in salt ... the most insightful point you made, for me, was the ability to switch .. left and right pretty quick while on the bow of a boat and virtually fire a long cast "quick" in any direction ... maybe i will try it on my 11ft switch rod ... can't hurt .. ... but, then again . one thing that i have been working on is the ability to cast with both right and left hand equally well (note, i say "working on" because i am far from actually doing it, WHEN IT MATTERS .. and with shooting heads .. but i am working on it .. and will get it .. maybe this year?) .... so, great points and maybe i will give my switch rod a try in the salt ... especially on some of the high walls i fish ... but, won't be able to give and useful feedback until i actually try it .... i have never done it in the salt in REAL WORLD cases ... so, it seems logical in theory .. but, alot of things seem logical in theory or in the back yard or online ... and make no sense at all when a nice pod of tuna pops up ... i'll let ya know, but certainly seems worth a try .... any more tips would be appreciated .. stripping basket? leesons you have learned? loading the rod with water loads in surf???? .. thanks..
ps.. i fish the "ditch" or the "trail" or the "canals" whatever you want to call it , alot ... i will tell you this "wading" in the degree of which you are speaking is not even something i would remotely consider ... infact, i keep a very very watchful eye when i am even close to the "trail" waters .. it is INFESTED with alligators, snakes and if you even attempted to do something like get in the water ... it wouldn't surprise me in the least if you got mauled by a gator ... they are everywhere, and those are only the ones you can see .... my advise, based on my experience fishing the "trail", the "ditches" and the "canals" .... stay out of the water at all costs..... leave the "waders" at home, you will be glad you did.
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