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jpfishn



PostPosted: Tue 09/26/06 12:03 pm    Post subject: I'm off to find the Blueback Trout! Reply with quote

I'm leaving tonight to hunt the blueback trout. The fish is only found in 5 lakes/ponds in the world (so, I read) and there all in Maine. We'll be doing some trolling and casting. I hear they act similar to lake trout, but we'll see. We are traveling blind a bit, but thats the fun. I'll report when I return. Very Happy
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ChrisR


Location: Southeast Massachusetts

PostPosted: Tue 09/26/06 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take pics. I would love to see a picture of a Maine Blueback. I found a site that listed the ponds and lakes that had Bluebacks in order of concentration. Forget what the link was but there were a good 2 dozen. Also I think we are not the only country that has Bluebacks(Landlock Arctic Char). Member BANDYCATCHER posted some pics of a fish that is a Landlock Arctic Char as well. Said they are caught in the remote lochs of Scotland. Looked identical to any pics I have seen. Here's the link to those pics.

http://www.fliesandfins.com/postt485.html
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Dee



PostPosted: Tue 02/10/09 7:04 pm    Post subject: Maine Bluebacks... Reply with quote

Hi!

Some of what you've read is good info, some not so much.
I'm a fly fishing instructor and outdoor writer born and bread in Maine.

There are native Blueback trout populations in ten lakes and ponds...all in Maine.
There are two alpine lakes in the Rockies that have been stocked with transplants from Big Reed and Wadliegh ponds.
Bluebacks have never been reared in a hatchery. They do have similar habits to lake trout. They are somewhat lighter in weight to brookies for equal length. They can live for twenty years. They tase better than brookies, tasting more like arctic char.
The fish in Scotland are not bluebacks, more like cousins. Bluebacks are not even the same fish as Sunapee trout in NH. Although the difference lies in things like mitochondria and restriction enzymes. So we won't go into it. I've caught the Scottish fish and they are wonderful...but as I say, not Bluebacks.
If you can find any literature by Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife (retired) fisheries biologist Fred Kircheis, he is the world's leading authority on Bluebacks.
I'm just finishing a new book about flyfishing ariund the world, and there is a chapter in it about fishing exclusively for BB's in Maine.
They are one of my favorite fish, and we catch a few every Spring.
Hope this helps.

Dee Dauphinee
piscatore@roadrunner.com
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jeremy


Location: Portland, Maine

PostPosted: Tue 02/10/09 8:04 pm    Post subject: Very Interesting Reply with quote

Very interesting - As I live in Maine and my good friend Boz does too. Recently we were talking about our "fish goals" for 2009 and "The Blueback Trout" is high on boz' list and after he told me all about the significance of the "Blueback" (in the same respect as the facts you mentioned) I became very interested. So this year, rather than seaking out the "Biggest Salmon" or a "Monster Native Brook Trout" or a "Bluefin Tuna" Or the next "Monster Striped Bass" (as we tend to always do every year here in maine (whether we are successful or not is a different story)) we thought it would be new and fun to devote 2009 to "Finding And Catching A Blueback Trout" Boz knows much more about it than me .. as he is a guide up in that region and lives and works on the Penobscot River all summer .. So, when he's not working .. he's gonna do the R & D for us and hopefully find our first "Blue Back Trout" ... And, as you are aware --- its easier said than done. Maine is the only place in the world where they can be found - never been stocked and only in select (usually very remote) places where long hike in's are required .. I'm looking forward to the challenge and the quest!

PS. Really, the live for 20 years? Here is a dumb question - but what is the average life span of say a "normal" trout? I really have no idea .. so, I will guess and say, on average, 5 years?

PPS - don't get me wrong .. we will still be staying true to our annual rituals of "big native brookies" "big landlocked atlantic salmon" "sea run atlantic salmon (if the state opens up the season like last year)" - "bluefin tuna" "big striped bass in the salt" ... but a new addition will be appended Very Happy - The Blueback Trout. Very Happy
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Boz


Location: Portland

PostPosted: Wed 02/11/09 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see this thread pop up again.

Question for Jpfishin who originally started the thread...Did you ever catch one?

Dee thanks for the info...
I can't say I've spent much time fishing for them, but I will put some time in this year. They've always intrigued me...
And so the quest continues...
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jeremy


Location: Portland, Maine

PostPosted: Wed 02/11/09 10:50 am    Post subject: Boz Reply with quote

You and me brotha -- the "Blueback Team" .. we ARE getting it done. Let me know what I can do (considering I can' tie flies, don't have the first qlue of where to begin looking and don't even know what one looks like, and don't have a canoe or whatever up in that region .. oh ya .. and if tent is required i don't have one of those .. same with sleeping bag) So, in the case of the Quest For The Blueback .. I'll by the beer and redbull I guess? Very Happy or whatever else you need .. Gonna be a fun quest!

PS. I assume you have tent/sleeping bag/cooking stuff/flies/boat or float tube and all that "little" stuff that I can borrow? I don't assume their is a holiday inn or best western close to where the Blue Backs live? Very Happy
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Dee



PostPosted: Thu 02/12/09 9:47 pm    Post subject: Blueback trout Reply with quote

Hi,
Dee again.

Eastern brook trout live naturally about 6-12 years...if my memory is correct (it sometimes fails me). A fisheries biologist may see this and correct me. Which would be great.

For you in Maine with thoughts of "different" game fish to go after, you might think about one of my favorites- Grayling. (Two day drive from Maine.) They are under-appreciated and are great on a fly rod. And get this- they LOVE small dry flies.
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jeremy


Location: Portland, Maine

PostPosted: Thu 02/12/09 10:32 pm    Post subject: Ya Reply with quote

Ya -- I hear ya about the Grayling .. and that's cool - but the BLUE BACK QUEST is sooo appealing because they simply can't be caught or found anywhere else but in maine .. and they are not easy to find even if you get to maine .. so although i have never caught a graling either (and definatley want to) this BLUE BACK quest is definately got my excited for a new adventure in my home state this year. pretty cool to realize that there is a "new game" to play in your home state .. i thought it was just about bluefin tuna, stripers, native brookies, wild rainbows, wild browns, sea run atlantic salmon, landlocked atlantic salmon, pike, small mouth bass, large mouth bass (i am probably missing a few .. but you get the point) .. and now .. i hear there is something called a "blue back trout" that only lives in maine and only in select ponds ... i like the adventure of fly fishing and the quests of catching a pacific northwest steelhead, or the quest of find the albies of montauk, or the quest of finding a grayling in canada .... and i really like the idea of finding, catching and releasing a blueback trout in my home state of maine! very cool concept .. looking forward to the challenge and the quest!
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Boz


Location: Portland

PostPosted: Fri 02/13/09 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeremy-
Safe bet that there are no Quality Inns on the bank of the ol blueback pond... It's for that very reason they are so appealing. It'll be a fun trip, and since this thread started I've been doing some furthur research... I think I've got the pond we wanna fish nailed down. Next step is trying to time it right so we can be heading in after ice out. Been talking with a friend about flying in...he's got a float plane. All the gear/ tents etc I got covered...Big thing will be the "ride" in... might need a swipe or two to get the float plane in the air...ya know

Dee and I have ben discussing the quest via email too. Thanks for all the suggestions and advice Dee.
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greg



PostPosted: Fri 02/13/09 10:35 am    Post subject: Blue Backs Reply with quote

I have caught Blue Backs but didn't know what they were until I showed the pictures to a friend. This thread has motivated me to get out the Gazetteer and locate the pond. There are so many small ponds in Maine that don't see a lot if any fishing action making them hard to find. The first pond that comes to mind is a late ice out pond and mid June is probably the best time to hit it. I'll have to give it a try this Spring, they are a beautiful fish and give you a good fight.
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jeremy


Location: Portland, Maine

PostPosted: Fri 02/13/09 10:43 am    Post subject: don't lie Reply with quote

Greg don't lie .. you've never caught a "blue back trout" .. you know it and i know it .. thanks. Very Happy
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Boz


Location: Portland

PostPosted: Fri 02/13/09 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg,

You digitized them? Let's see a couple pics...
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ruderogo


Location: portland maine

PostPosted: Tue 03/17/09 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone caught a nice one last summer. Only pick of a BB i've seen.
http://www.netrailhead.com/fishing/record-arctic-charr-blueback-caught-by-11-year-old-in-maine/
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notinlobsterlake



PostPosted: Fri 06/05/09 3:24 pm    Post subject: Maine Bluebacks...... Reply with quote

I do not live in Maine, but have fished consistently in a certain area of Maine since 1967, and I know from experience that I know those areas and ponds better than most locals.
I know for a fact that there are naturally occurring Blueback Trout populations in at least 3 Very Happy ponds that supposedly have no Bluebacks. I seriously love fishing remote ( and not so remote) trout ponds. I can't wait to return this summer and catch more trout. Brookies and Bluebacks!
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Kennebecster



PostPosted: Thu 06/11/09 8:38 pm    Post subject: places in maine Reply with quote

I fished in Northwestern Maine several years ago and caught bluebacks in the outlet stream from a pond below a set of large falls. It was quite a surprise becaue they are not found in any great numbers in the ponds above where I was fishing ( except for one). I was shocked to see them below the falls, we caught four of them, the larget was ten inches. On several return trips we have caught only wild brook trout( tough to handle ). I am not sure if those fish were a fluke or not but some of the old timers who used to fish those lake chains said they were not surprised by what we cuaght.
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AndrewCarrFishes



PostPosted: Thu 06/16/11 2:57 pm    Post subject: Maine aint the only state with blue backs!!!! Reply with quote

I fishing all the time at my home town lake "lake potanipo" here in brookline nh, and ive cought dozens of blueback trout there! The first one i had no idea what it was so i dod some research and found that it was a land locked arctic charr (blueback trout) so who ever said that they are only found in maine was wrong Sad [/b]
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